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  Then in respect of any kind of motion the one is immoveable?

  Immoveable.

  But neither can the one be in anything, as we affirm.

  Yes, we said so.

  Then it is never in the same?

  Why not?

  Because if it were in the same it would be in something.

  Certainly.

  And we said that it could not be in itself, and could not be in
other?

  True.

  Then one is never in the same place?

  It would seem not.

  But that which is never in the same place is never quiet or at rest?

  Never.

  One then, as would seem, is neither rest nor in motion?

  It certainly appears so.

  Neither will it be the same with itself or other; nor again, other
than itself or other.

  How is that?

  If other than itself it would be other than one, and would not be
one.

  True.

  And if the same with other, it would be that other, and not
itself; so that upon this supposition too, it would not have the
nature of one, but would be other than one?

  It would.

  Then it will not be the same with other, or other than itself?

  It will not.

  Neither will it be other than other, while it remains one; for not
one, but only other, can be other than other, and nothing else.

  True.

  Then not by virtue of being one will it be other?

  Certainly not.

  But if not by virtue of being one, not by virtue of itself; and if
not by virtue of itself, not itself, and itself not being other at
all, will not be other than anything?

  Right.

  Neither will one be the same with itself.

  How not?

  Surely the nature of the one is not the nature of the same.

  Why not?

  It is not when anything becomes the same with anything that it
becomes one.

  What of that?

  Anything which becomes the same with the many, necessarily becomes
many and not one.

  True.

  But, if there were no difference between the one and the same,
when a thing became the same, it would always become one; and when
it became one, the same?

  Certainly.

  And, therefore, if one be the same with itself, it is not one with
itself, and will therefore be one and also not one.

  Surely that is impossible.

  And therefore the one can neither be other than other, nor the
same with itself.

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